Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

But don't we use them every time a new coaster that breaks those barriers come out? Shambhala is a hyper, not in a Cedar Fair park? And so are the Supermans, and Steel Dragon is a giga... Sure, it's a marketing term. But we've been using them ever since, so I'm not sure what the problem is.

[larrygatorObsessive Overlord of the TPR Park Index]

But don't we use them every time a new coaster that breaks those barriers come out? Shambhala is a hyper, not in a Cedar Fair park? And so are the Supermans, and Steel Dragon is a giga... Sure, it's a marketing term. But we've been using them ever since, so I'm not sure what the problem is.

No real problem, but is there really a difference between 199 feet 11 1/2 inches or 200 feet?
Is a 200 foot coaster different than a 299 foot coaster? There are both classified in the same category.
To me a 299 foot coaster has more in common with a 300 foot coaster, yet people argue that one is a hyper and one's a giga.

Then again I'm one of those people that has never used those terms when refering to a coaster. I just state the real height.

I agree with you there, I'm just one for categories, I suppose. The only reason I brought it up is that most would agree that Magnum is a "hyper," so by that same logic even if Leviathan's drop didn't break 300' then it would still too be considered a "giga." For those who care about those labels, of course.

But really though I just like roller coasters, and I need to dig out my passport for this next summer!

[braztazDon't make me kick you in the donkey!]

^^That's something that's always bugged me as well; like when someone says Griffon is better than Sheikra because it's "taller". Do you really notice that you're five feet higher up than before? Do you really say "Oh wow, this definitely feels like 205 feet!".

That little of a difference in height has never mattered to me, either.

[swiverHarry Potter is a sick donkey.]

^Well I don't really like Griffon better than SheiKra because it's higher. I like it better because it has weird and random airtime hills, whereas SheiKra kind of just turns back into the station.

But on a Canada's Wonderland related note, this first drop on Leviathan looks like it's gonna be insane. I'd even dare to say that it's probably going to have the best airtime of any hill on a B&M coaster.

[cal1br3ttoWhy do I still have a donkey title???]

I don't mind using the common terms, but I do think of them more as referring to styles of coasters that most commonly fall into a certain height range. To me, mini-hypers like Steel Eel and Goliath at La Ronde might as well be true hypers, and Millennium Force is basically just an oversized hyper.

If this is anything like my favorite B&M hypers and/or my lone gigacoaster credit, I'm sure I'll love it.

[PCW_NutA donkey is a domesticated member of the Equidae or horse family.]

But don't we use them every time a new coaster that breaks those barriers come out? Shambhala is a hyper, not in a Cedar Fair park? And so are the Supermans, and Steel Dragon is a giga... Sure, it's a marketing term. But we've been using them ever since, so I'm not sure what the problem is.

No real problem, but is there really a difference between 199 feet 11 1/2 inches or 200 feet?
Is a 200 foot coaster different than a 299 foot coaster? There are both classified in the same category.
To me a 299 foot coaster has more in common with a 300 foot coaster, yet people argue that one is a hyper and one's a giga.

Then again I'm one of those people that has never used those terms when refering to a coaster. I just state the real height.

Marketing tool or not, ever since height has been a major selling point on a coaster and names have been given to each category the following seems to have been true:

200-299ft: Hyper/Mega
300-399ft - Giga
400+ - Strata

I agree that the comparison if the ride is a foot taller then another is clear as day, but just like people's heights, if you're 4'8" than you can be legally considered a "little person", whereas if you're 4"9" you cannot.

[kunpc1I wrote the book about donkeys!]

The drop will be more than 306'.

[PCW_NutA donkey is a domesticated member of the Equidae or horse family.]

^Hmmm, as always coming in with the top secret information. Love it!

But I am not surprised. There honestly is no other reason for this trench if not to break a certain height/drop goal. They easily could have ditched the trench and just adjusted accordingly.

So excited to be on the verge of a possible world record coaster rather then just a Canadian record holder.

[sixflagsgadvguy1000This B&M donkey is so smooth!]

Leviathan is looking pretty sweet!