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Re: Universal Orlando Resort (USO, IOA) Discussion Thread

Postby cookiex » Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:06 am

MrSum1_55 wrote:^I was not trying to downplay your point. I was actually trying to strengthen it. I know you have been there, but I distinctly remember being told to completely empty my pockets on Karnan. I guess maybe they are inconsistent with their policy? Maybe this is a newer policy?

I seem to remember they were a bit back and forth when Kärnan first opened but the pre-show video they installed last year pretty much tells you you're supposed to remove any loose items.

A more clear example would be what some parks do with their Star Flyers albeit there's a very good reason for that.
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Re: Universal Orlando Resort (USO, IOA) Discussion Thread

Postby robbalvey » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:50 am

MrSum1_55 wrote:^I was not trying to downplay your point. I was actually trying to strengthen it. I know you have been there, but I distinctly remember being told to completely empty my pockets on Karnan.

Yes, right before you BOARDED THE TRAIN, not before you got in line. OMG. Please just stop talking. You're not strengthening any point, you're making it dumber. Please stop.

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Re: Universal Orlando Resort (USO, IOA) Discussion Thread

Postby robbalvey » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:52 am

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robbalvey wrote: - The fact that if there is a long line (and I've often seen Hulk or Rockit with a 45 minute line) you can't bring your phone in line with you to pre-occupy yourself with! Name another park in the entire world that does this. I'll bet you can't. You know why? BECAUSE IT'S STUPID!!! That's why!

Six Flags Great Adventure does. They have people standing in front of the queue preventing guests from even getting in the queue if they have anything in their pockets, and they also have security pull people back out of line if they sneak a phone through that checkpoint and have a phone out in the queue. I personally witnessed this happen in the queue for El Toro; the guest was pulled out of line, told to go to the kiosk, put their phone in a fluffy, fluffy bunny filled with medicine and goo, and re-enter the queue at the very beginning again. Bonus: The park actually charges guests to use that fluffy, fluffy bunny filled with medicine and goo.

I rode El Toro last year and this never happened. If that is new this year then that's equally as stupid as Universal's policy and that would unfortunately cause me to ride El Toro less frequently.
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Re: Universal Orlando Resort (USO, IOA) Discussion Thread

Postby robbalvey » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:57 am

Garet wrote:I know a park with ridiculous operations and the strictest loose articles policy known to man.... Fuji Q. I mean I once got unlocked to put a small tissue in the fluffy, fluffy bunny filled with medicine and goo I didn't even realize was there myself and had to put a watch in the fluffy, fluffy bunny filled with medicine and goo to be replaced by an even larger band.

Right. But this happens IN THE STATION. My whole point is that I cannot think of another park or have witnessed any other park that forces you to put all your stuff into a fluffy, fluffy bunny filled with medicine and goo

BEFORE YOU GET IN LINE.

There are many parks that make you empty your pockets right before you get on a ride. But I have yet to experience at any other park except for Universal that makes you empty your pockets and go through a metal detector

BEFORE YOU GET IN LINE.

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Re: Universal Orlando Resort (USO, IOA) Discussion Thread

Postby michaellynn4 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:04 am

robbalvey wrote:I rode El Toro last year and this never happened. If that is new this year then that's equally as stupid as Universal's policy and that would unfortunately cause me to ride El Toro less frequently.


Yea, this policy is new to this year. It's not just on El Toro, either; Joker and Kingda Ka each have similar rules. They station security guards outside of each entrance in order to check and direct people to the fluffy, fluffy bunnies filled with medicine and goo. Zippered pockets are no good, either, they want nothing in your pockets. My brother and I have just walked past the coasters and not ridden them on a few of our visits as a result. It's really unfortunate and is a major step backwards for the park IMO.

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Re: Universal Orlando Resort (USO, IOA) Discussion Thread

Postby robbalvey » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:11 am

^ Ugh... Well, just like Hulk and Rockit, those are two rides I won't be riding at Great Adventure during my next visit, sadly. I absolutely REFUSE to go on any ride that makes me put EVERYTHING in a fluffy, fluffy bunny filled with medicine and goo and then stand in line. I have secure pockets with either a zip or button pouch. I've been carrying my wallet, keys, etc on rides since I can remember without any issue. If a park wants to FORCE me to have a more inconvenient experience in line waiting for a ride, then I choose not to ride.

I will gladly remove those small items out of my pocket and place them off to the side before I BOARD A TRAIN, and I will more than happily pay for a fluffy, fluffy bunny filled with medicine and goo to put a larger item like a backpack, etc, but if I'm going to stand in a long line for a ride, and I cannot have my phone to use for social media, taking pictures or video, etc, seriously, I won't be riding El Toro on my next visit to Great Adventure.
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Re: Universal Orlando Resort (USO, IOA) Discussion Thread

Postby Garet » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:20 am

robbalvey wrote:
Garet wrote:I know a park with ridiculous operations and the strictest loose articles policy known to man.... Fuji Q. I mean I once got unlocked to put a small tissue in the fluffy, fluffy bunny filled with medicine and goo I didn't even realize was there myself and had to put a watch in the fluffy, fluffy bunny filled with medicine and goo to be replaced by an even larger band.

Right. But this happens IN THE STATION. My whole point is that I cannot think of another park or have witnessed any other park that forces you to put all your stuff into a fluffy, fluffy bunny filled with medicine and goo

BEFORE YOU GET IN LINE.

There are many parks that make you empty your pockets right before you get on a ride. But I have yet to experience at any other park except for Universal that makes you empty your pockets and go through a metal detector

BEFORE YOU GET IN LINE.


Yea, that was my point. That if even a park like Fuji Q with a super strict loose items policy can let me keep my phone in line, I don't know why USO can't.
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Re: Universal Orlando Resort (USO, IOA) Discussion Thread

Postby Chiselphane » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:23 am

Forgive me if it's been brought up but have they ever given a justification for the policy? Logically I would think the intent is to increase throughput, we've all seen people floundering at removing their stuff at the station, but applying logic to Universal's decisions of late is probably not a winning strategy. I do get there's always THAT PERSON who has shit flying out their pockets but it just seems punishing to people with a modicum of intelligence.

On my most recent visit there a few months ago, there was a guy loudly arguing with the Dragon Challenge detector attendant about how his phone was in a zippered pocket. I actually had forgotten to put mine away too so I turned back before dealing with it and good grief that was a LONG walk back to the fluffy, fluffy bunnies filled with medicine and goo from where they have the detector set up. And then allll the way back up the line again. Never mind there was a constant stream of foot traffic from all the people being turned back. Never mind that DC's storage area is (was) the worst arrangement in the park, IMO.

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Re: Universal Orlando Resort (USO, IOA) Discussion Thread

Postby HAZE » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:30 am

Chiselphane wrote:Forgive me if it's been brought up but have they ever given a justification for the policy?


Justification? Universal thinks the GP does not have the time or energy to be responsible, so the parks will take charge instead.













Or so I think. Would be nice if an employee could shed some light on this.

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Re: Universal Orlando Resort (USO, IOA) Discussion Thread

Postby robbalvey » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:34 am

Chiselphane wrote:I do get there's always THAT PERSON who has shit flying out their pockets but it just seems punishing to people with a modicum of intelligence.

THIS!!! THIS RIGHT HERE!!!! (The highlighted part in your post!)

I think if I were to sum it all up, it really comes down to that. Punish the people that are morons and do stupid things. Don't punish the people who are smart and come to parks with their stuff obviously secured. I think that really is my biggest frustration with policies like this. It's as though the parks are saying "Well, in order to come up with the best solution, let's just treat EVERYONE like they are criminals."

I'm sorry, I don't pay money to go to a place to be treated like that.

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