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Re: Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

Postby SteveStL » Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:55 am

ytterbiumanalyst wrote:It's a small market park in a rust belt town. If you live in St. Louis and don't understand your city's status in this country, then the blame is squarely on you.


Cincinnati, and Ohio in general, is right in the middle of the Rust Belt, so I can't buy that excuse.

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Re: Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

Postby Philrad71 » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:59 am

Kevin Long wrote:
Danrarbc wrote:Anyone remember when Hersheypark was a similar park to SFSL? I had no idea they were up to 14 coasters already. And they get 15 in 2020 :(


Clearly you have never been to La Ronde. LOL


SFSL is the red-headed stepchild to the chain. ( no offense to red-heads or stepchildren)

SFSL is the last picked for the kickball game.

SFSL has been friend zoned by the chain.

probably all bad examples.....

but they do explain things a bit.

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Re: Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

Postby thisdougsforu » Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:14 pm

There are plenty of reasons SFSL is the way it is, but the whole "it's in podunk St. Louis, there is your answer" argument seems pretty flawed. Cincinnatti, Ohio. Santa Claus, Indiana. Branson, Missouri. Cleveland, Ohio. Knoxville, Tennessee; all markets with parks most sane folks would deem "superior" for one reason or another. The St. Louis metro population (right under 3 mil estimated) is larger than all of those. In the case of the smaller places, A LOT more.

Again, I understand why the park is the way it is, but that's Six Flags doing for the most part, not really the region. They (corporate) want to put a minimal investment in the park and keep it profitable by way of season's passes and other way to court the locals. That's fine, but to say that its the only viable way to run the business because of the region seems a reach to me.

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Re: Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

Postby Danrarbc » Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:09 pm

thisdougsforu wrote:There are plenty of reasons SFSL is the way it is, but the whole "it's in podunk St. Louis, there is your answer" argument seems pretty flawed. Cincinnatti, Ohio. Santa Claus, Indiana. Branson, Missouri. Cleveland, Ohio. Knoxville, Tennessee; all markets with parks most sane folks would deem "superior" for one reason or another. The St. Louis metro population (right under 3 mil estimated) is larger than all of those. In the case of the smaller places, A LOT more.

Again, I understand why the park is the way it is, but that's Six Flags doing for the most part, not really the region. They (corporate) want to put a minimal investment in the park and keep it profitable by way of season's passes and other way to court the locals. That's fine, but to say that its the only viable way to run the business because of the region seems a reach to me.

Perfectly said. Back in the 90s St Louis wasn't really any more relevant nationally, but at that time corporate ownership was significantly more interested in capital improvements at this park.

It isn't like Hershey PA is a 20 million person-strong metropolis. And yes back in the 90s the parks' lineups were much more similar.

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Re: Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

Postby Woodie Warrior » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:12 pm

Not sure if it's been mentioned yet but Colossus is back up and running.
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Re: Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

Postby Danrarbc » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:34 am

Woodie Warrior wrote:Not sure if it's been mentioned yet but Colossus is back up and running.

Yeah you can spot quite a bit of new hardware.

I'd love it if the park had something like Holiblog where they could do a post detailing what types of changes were required to make Colossus a continuous rotation wheel. Based on what I can just see from the outside it looks like quite a bit had to be done to modify the actual drivetrain.

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Re: Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

Postby kdjs » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:59 pm

Just out of curiosity, was there ever anything official from SFSTL as to why the helix on The Boss was removed? Was an official reason ever given? I know some people thought the helix was way too rough, but was that the actual reason for its removal? Were the trains causing issues to the track? I agree it was rough, but that was part of the coaster's charm. I would have rather they kept the helix. I was much against the Boss ever getting the RMC treatment, but now that the trains basically stop before the third drop, barely make it to the 4th drop, and no helix, I hope it does get the RMC treatment. Still thinking something big in 2021 for the park's 50 year anniversary.

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Re: Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

Postby Danrarbc » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:54 pm

kdjs wrote:Just out of curiosity, was there ever anything official from SFSTL as to why the helix on The Boss was removed? Was an official reason ever given? I know some people thought the helix was way too rough, but was that the actual reason for its removal? Were the trains causing issues to the track? I agree it was rough, but that was part of the coaster's charm. I would have rather they kept the helix. I was much against the Boss ever getting the RMC treatment, but now that the trains basically stop before the third drop, barely make it to the 4th drop, and no helix, I hope it does get the RMC treatment. Still thinking something big in 2021 for the park's 50 year anniversary.

The helix probably always came up when people mentioned the roughness of the ride. And yeah I imagine that there was quite a bit of Wear and tear on both trains and the structure in that area. I also agree, I miss it and I think maybe there would have been room to increase the diameter of the helix by at least 50ft. It would have required many new footings though so a more expensive job.

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Re: Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

Postby prozach626 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:21 am

kdjs wrote:...but now that the trains basically stop before the third drop, barely make it to the 4th drop, and no helix, I hope it does get the RMC treatment.

Those are the exact reasons why I actually like The Boss, now. It's actually fun, because it's tolerable.

kdjs wrote:Still thinking something big in 2021 for the park's 50 year anniversary.

No, dude. It's been said and proven so many times that parks don't budget around anniversary dates. If something big is announced, it will be purely coincidental. Either way, we won't get something large scale, because I really don't think it will matter in the long run, if we do. The best bone we could possibly be thrown is a Wonder Woman clone. Don't hold your breath.

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Re: Six Flags St. Louis (SFStL) Discussion Thread

Postby bluestreak » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:30 am

I'm under the mindset that parks will never ever get anything big on an anniversary year because they're losing a year of free marketing. Say SFSL gets nothing in 2021 but then magically gets something huge in 2022. They can market the anniversary in 2021 and then have something awesome to market in 2022.

On the flip side of this, if they get a major awesome new ride in 2021, they only have that one year to get a huge marketing boost. 2022 would then have nothing major to to market, especially at a park like SFSL where major additions are far and few between.
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