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Re: SFNO/Southern Star Saga Discussion Thread

Postby astroworldfan1 » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:03 pm

At SFNO.com, a SFNO fansite, someone contacted Councilman Arnie Fielkow and he claims that the park being demolished is nothing more than untrue..

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Re: SFNO/Southern Star Saga Discussion Thread

Postby RCFreak » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:25 pm

I finally got around to seeing the video, and man is it a beautifully haunting reminder of what a sad story the park has to tell.

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Re: SFNO/Southern Star Saga Discussion Thread

Postby ArizonaGuy » Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:54 pm

astroworldfan1 wrote:dbi-nyc.com/docs/DBIConsultingQual.pdf

On page 17, there's a page about Six Flags New Orleans that gives an estimate by a construction company.


Read page 4.
This company does Loss Assessments on all these different types of properties to estimate replacement cost, type of loss, cause of loss, etc.......This was not an estimate by a construction company.
This is something mostly used by insurance companies to help them with paying out large claims after the Loss assessment. This also helps them in legal situations when sued for not paying out losses due to flood (flood policies are separate from master policies) vs. wind, etc.
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Re: SFNO/Southern Star Saga Discussion Thread

Postby beatle11 » Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:38 pm

Hey, I just saw this article. This should help clear things up a bit.

Offer to redevelop Six Flags Amusement Park in New Orleans is still pending

Although a video making the rounds on the Internet says that the theme park is scheduled for demolition next year, city officials say there are no plans to demolish the Six Flags Amusement Park and an offer to redevelop the site is still pending.

The six and a half-minute video shot by photographer Teddy Smith, set only to somber music, provides a haunting illustration of the park's unkempt state. Shattered glass from blown out windows and doors still covers the ground. Vandals have covered some walls with graffiti. The park rides, left abandoned since the park shut down, are predictably weathered. At the end of the video, a word blurb says that the park rides are scheduled to be dismantled and the park demolished in January.

But city spokesman Ryan Berni said that "there is no plan" to demolish the site or to dismantle the equipment. Such an action would require approval from the City Council, said Eric Granderson, chief of staff for council chairman Arnie Fielkow. The council is not entertaining any such proposals, Granderson said. "We had heard that rumor," Granderson said. "But it isn't true."

The city also disputes another claim in the video: that it was shot with the city's permission. Berni said Smith was part of a film crew shooting the movie "The Courier" at the site over four days in October. While the film crew had permission to shoot for the movie, Berni said Smith, who lists telephone numbers in Baton Rouge and Los Angeles on his Web site, did not have the city's permission to shoot his own video. Smith did not return a request for comment.

Aside from the recent movie filming and Smith's video, there has been little action at the park, which never reopened after Hurricane Katrina. Private security had been used to guard the site for several years after it closed, but the City Council budget for 2011 does not include it.

The city has ownership of the property after Six Flags terminated its lease with New Orleans in December while undergoing bankruptcy reorganization. The termination agreement called for Six Flags to make a $3 million cash payment to the city. The company also was ordered to give New Orleans 25 percent of its net Katrina-related insurance proceeds for the site on a settlement amount more than $65 million.

Last year, there were competing proposals for the site's development. A start up called Southern Star Amusement that for a short time had an alliance with Nickelodeon wanted to refurbish the park's rides and reopen it as a Nickelodeon branded theme park. Meanwhile, Big League Dreams hoped to build a sports complex. Neither project has moved forward.

The most recent offer to redevelop the park came from Minnesota developer 3 Wise Men Entertainment Inc. In its application to the Industrial Development Board in April, the company said that it would restore "infrastructure, sewer, water, other utilities, building structures and existing park rides," among other things on the 150-acre site. The company's proposal also called for the development of a "resort with a water park and additional theme rides."

According to the application, the total projected budget for the project was $202 million. But just days after its application went public, the company withdrew its request to appear before the Industrial Development Board to request preliminary approval of $200 million in bonds to support the project. The board, which acts as the city's real estate arm, must give initial approval for bonds before a request is made to the Louisiana State Bond Commission.

The application is still pending, IDB Administrator Sharon Martin said. But a date for it to go before the board had not been set as of Wednesday afternoon.


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Re: SFNO/Southern Star Saga Discussion Thread

Postby samisthabomb » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:11 pm

I hate to say this, but they just need to sell the not-too-damaged rides and tear the place down. You just don't build something like that in New Orleans. It's way too big of an investment for that location. I mean, there isn't any shelter for the rides, so they're left for the weather. And to built this in a place notorious for terrible hurricanes. Really stupid idea, in my opinion.
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Re: SFNO/Southern Star Saga Discussion Thread

Postby ArizonaGuy » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:57 am

^^
Had the levee's not failed, most if not all damage would have been wind damage. That would have easily been taken care of by the master insurance policy or if they had to take out a separate wind and hail policy, that would have pretty much covered it. I personally don't see the park coming back as anything huge but who knows. We'll see if they learn from past experience.
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Re: SFNO/Southern Star Saga Discussion Thread

Postby jynx242 » Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:07 am

At this point it seems like flogging a dead horse. Really - it's sad to see, but it happened. They need to (as someone mentioned above) sell off what they can - recycle the rest - and do something else with the property.

I never like to see a park go down - but at this point, this seems like a lost cause.

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Re: SFNO/Southern Star Saga Discussion Thread

Postby RandallDuell » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:23 am

Interesting that the guy shot his video DURING an "approved" shoot for a movie at the park! Other than pub, he's not making any money off of it so I guess it was a good idea....and one that the city won't be much more than annoyed about (it's not like he was selling it, therefore forcing the city to try to get their cut etc). Wonder what, if any, money the city collected for allowing the crew to shoot there?

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Re: SFNO/Southern Star Saga Discussion Thread

Postby larrygator » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:49 am

If it was filmed illegally and portrays the area in a bad light the city has every right to be upset and pursue legal action.
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Re: SFNO/Southern Star Saga Discussion Thread

Postby astroworldfan1 » Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:48 pm

larrygator wrote:If it was filmed illegally and portrays the area in a bad light the city has every right to be upset and pursue legal action.


How can you really portray New Orleans East any worse than it already is? :lmao:

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