Walt Disney World Epcot Discussion Thread

[ChroniqTPR's nicest person EVAR!!!]

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[DATmanOMG! A TALKING MUFFIN!]

It's funny. I've never had a problem returning within the posted times on my fastpasses, and I've also never had a problem getting on all the rides I want by taking advantage of the "You can get another fastpass at X time" rule that they established.

I don't know about everyone else, but if you can't get to a ride when you have a full hour of a time window (and think about it, you really only ever get about 14-16 total hours in the parks on a given day), then that's your fault not Disney's. Heck, I had three days to cover the entirety of WDW the week after Christmas, and I still managed to get on every single ride I wanted to apart from Nemo at Epcot, while obeying all the fastpass rules. I really don't see the issue at all.

If you happen to be stuck in a long line and your fastpass expires, that's your fault. You took a gamble, and it didn't pay off. There's no faulting Disney for that.

[timfreemanThere is no such thing as a donkey punch.]

This thread is MUCH different than I'm seeing on other forums. It is by far the most pro change forum.

That's because our group is filled with intelligent, sensible people. This is what makes TPR different from all of those other boards.

The only valid argument I see here against the change is that some people might miss a fast pass time due to a fault by Disney (slow restaurant service, ride breakdown, incorrect queue time). If any of those things happen to a guest and they don't get consideration from front line cast members then all they have to do is walk over to guest services and they'll get on the ride. Case closed.

This actually made me laugh out loud and spit Coke on my monitor. Not the "intelligent, sensible" part, but the "walk over to guest services" piece.

In all my years of going to WDW, I've never gotten anything accomplished for major issues using guest services. If and when this actually takes affect, people will try to use every excuse in the book, including reservations. What do we get when we sit there for 45 minutes waiting for a dining reservation we made 6 months ago? I've been stuck on rides for over 2 hours and had cast members gruffly tell me to go to guest services. When I got to guest services, I couldn't even get 1 fast pass out of them for the last 2 hours they killed.

I think I'll play my day to sit on the benches outside guest services and watch the anger and venom of people exiting the building.

[DirkFunkDoes Jeff Johnson count this donkey as a credit?]

Since the capacity of the rides don't change, if they continue to allow you to show up late so you can get that extra E-ticket ride, who is losing out on a ride? The guest that follows the rules that's who.

I for one would be happy if all the people that complain about enforcement of the rules don't go to the park any more. It will make the park that much more enjoyable for the rest of us.

The hourly capacity doesn't change, no. But to the best of my knowledge, Disney doesn't cut lines off well in advance of closing, which means that anyone who wants to get in line for the ride and "follow the rules" as they are presently writen will get on the ride should they be willing to wait and it doesn't break down. No one misses a ride. This theorized new way, someone does.

edit: Before someone catches it - yes, the person who previously might have been able to use an old fastpass to board 5 minutes to closing can still wait in the standby line of tomorrow, of course. What percentage of those people would wait standby? I have a feeling Disney has a better idea of the answer than me. All I know is that from my perspective, I'd probably lose out given my habits at Disney. But like Robb said, this is minutae about a system that isn't in place yet. We'll all know eventually.

[ChroniqTPR's nicest person EVAR!!!]

Ratuso- Clearly we won't be able to sway your opinion.. This debate could go on for days, but I think we've covered all of the bases at this point.

-chris "Is looking forward to seeing how this plays out" connolly

P.S. Tim Freeman- I've had great luck with guest services addressing any issues I've ever had. Small talk and a smile works wonders.

P.P.S. This is honestly the most asinine argument I've ever seen on TPR. People are pissed because they can't "work" the system anymore. Be happy that you were able to work it for ten years. Figure out a new system if that's your thing. I'll be at Disney with an infant this year, and we'll make it work by following the rules.

[The SETGO GuysMy Dumps Smell Like Cantaloupe]

I've been stuck on rides for over 2 hours and had cast members gruffly tell me to go to guest services. When I got to guest services, I couldn't even get 1 fast pass out of them for the last 2 hours they killed.

Seriously?

I've left compliments about Cast Members at guest services and gotten Fastpasses for that.
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On the subject of Fastpasses has anyone else ever had a problem with demagnetizing their ticket. That happend on my last visit and I was given a special "Fastpass Pass" for use that day.

[A.J.Counts I305 as 32 credits...]

This is a trainwreck. It's not even about EPCOT anymore.

We should like...break this off into its own thread, or something.

[timfreemanThere is no such thing as a donkey punch.]

P.S. Tim Freeman- I've had great luck with guest services addressing any issues I've ever had. Small talk and a smile works wonders.

Believe me, I know you have to go in there with a smile on and your best foot forward even though you want to drag them over the counter and smack em around. Not sure they could pay me enough to take a job in that field. My guess is that I got them after they dealt with an extremely unpleasant visitor, but that shouldn't be my problem.

[larrygatorObsessive Overlord of the TPR Park Index]

This is a trainwreck. It's not even about EPCOT anymore.

We should like...break this off into its own thread, or something.

NO!

[ChroniqTPR's nicest person EVAR!!!]

Believe me, I know you have to go in there with a smile on and your best foot forward even though you want to drag them over the counter and smack em around.

If that is your actual mentality before you walk into guest services, I can see why the outcome wasn't to your liking.

-chris "wonders why anyone would like to "smack around" a cast member while they are visiting "the happiest place on earth""connolly