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Postby CoasterFanatic » Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:05 am

Keep in mind I have NEVER felt this way due to any other theme park attraction in my entire life, including roller coasters that pull more G's than this thing supposedly does.


There is a BIG difference between G's and sustained G's. While a coaster may hit as much as 5 G's it is only for the blink of an eye. Mission:SPACE sustains these forces for a much longer duration.

I also never guaranteed anything. I said that I can "almost guarantee" that there was a pre-existing condition.

Another Article (An opportunistic Markey rocks the mic):
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2005-06-14-ride-death_x.htm

The ride reopens the next day:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-ride15jun15,0,1367378.story?coll=la-home-nation
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Postby SpartanTS » Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:42 am

As stated before, apparently there was some type of condition that possibly triggered what happened to this child. The ride/experience is a good, and personally I don't see anything "Evil" about it.

But, allowing a 4 year old to ride Mission Space wasn't a good idea. For rides that create a sensation of going into space, the child should be at least old enough for to attend space camp. I'm sure NASA wouldn't allow 4 year olds to come to a Space Camp.

By the way, I'm sure the "Space Camp" comment sounds harsh, but it is in no way, shape or form meant to be a harsh comment. Just had to put that disclaimer in there :D

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Postby DerekRx » Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:03 am

I also believe the kid had to have a pre-existing condition. I'm thinking either sickle cell or a valve problem or something. Even if not, its still not a good idea to send a 4 year old on the ride. But this is Disney, and most people think Disney is just for little kids, therefore every ride is made for them.
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Postby FlyingScooter » Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:05 am

This is unrelated: maybe.
A couple of years ago, my daughter was 12 and played softball on a local summer league. Keep in mind, they had to have physicals before they could join the league. During one game in mid summer, a kid on an opposing team dropped dead of a heart attack right at the plate. The autopsy showed nothing. Death ended up being natural causes. The kid just died. no rhyme, no reason. It was horrible. I've never seen EMT's work so hard to save someone in my life. It's terrible, but sometimes death just happens. No blame...

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Postby sheikra2350 » Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:07 pm

I think that the parents are to be held responsible for this. My heart goes out to them but I bet you they didn't even think twice about it. He probably had the height but he didn't have the physical strength. On top of that he is still impressionable and was obviously not ready for this. This is a message to all parents out there: They might be tall enough but their physical strength may not be enough, please parents, be careful. And plus, disney will not say goodbye to the "paperweight" that cost them 190 million + and is the most popular ride in the park and maybe the whole resort. I'm a huge disney fan and have studied the history and I am almost positive that they will keep the ride but just bring the intensity down a notch.

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Postby JT3000 » Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:04 pm

EpcotLova wrote:Give me a break JT. Just because you dont like one ride doesnt mean Disney has to tear it down.

Others actually enjoy the feeling of launching off into space, and can actually take the G forces without getting sick. Its not all about YOU, JT.


That was incredibly stupid. Of course it's not all about me. I never said it was. A kid died the other day, or were you not paying attention? This ride also sent someone I know to the hospital, along with others. The fact that I don't like it is the least of it's problems. So don't even start that crap. You love the ride. You want to have it's babies. We know. But when the company that built the friggin' thing sues Disney for not letting them make sure it's safe for the public before it opened, there's a problem here. And gee, I wonder why were just now hearing about it? Hmm, makes you think.

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Postby arrowfanman » Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:22 pm

Yes JT...that does make me think...but that also makes me ASSUME...something dangerous in a tradgedy like such.

I think we should all just sit and wait for official news on the kids death, without blaming the ride, without blaming the parents, and without getting all pissy at each other.

Just because we are fans of the Amusment industry, something like this happens, and we think we are experts...we aren't. A kid dies, and we think we are all doctors. A kid dies, and we think we are all aeronautical engineers--experts. We are not! And if we were, we aren't there investigating first hand, so we STILL dont know the truth.

In the end...if you trust the ride, then ride it...if you dont trust the ride, then dont ride it.

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Postby Sir Clinksalot » Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:41 pm

JT3000 wrote:And gee, I wonder why were just now hearing about it? Hmm, makes you think.


Yeah, it makes me think that the company that built the ride is trying to capitalize on the current situation for their own gain.

Also, I didn't hear that the company was suing because Disney didn't test the ride sufficiently, I heard it was for a lack of payment.
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Postby JT3000 » Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:54 pm

It was for both reasons. But they can't possibly be trying to capitalize on this situation considering this lawsuit was filed a long time ago. It is just now coming to light due to this incident. So there goes that theory.

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Postby dubaidave » Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:06 am

this page has a link to the 911 call.
http://www.wftv.com/news/4611813/detail.html#
its quite interesting

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