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Re: Walt Disney World Epcot Discussion Thread

Postby Satans Hockey » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:57 pm

coasterbill wrote:
larrygator wrote:The only way I would care about an opening act would be if it was like a happy ending.


Based on what I'm learning about these hardcore Disney people that's exactly what it's like for them, and it has the same end result.


You should go look at one of the Disney boards and see how crazy it gets if you really want to go down a rabbit hole of craziness lol
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Re: Walt Disney World Epcot Discussion Thread

Postby cfc » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:16 pm

larrygator wrote:The only way I would care about an opening act would be if it was like a happy ending.


That's only at Shanghai or Hong Kong Disney. ;)
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Re: Walt Disney World Epcot Discussion Thread

Postby Gav » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:10 pm

So with this "opening act" thing, what about on rides with storylines in the queue that you skip if you use Fastpass? This seems no worse.

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Re: Walt Disney World Epcot Discussion Thread

Postby PayneTrain » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:04 pm

Gav wrote:So with this "opening act" thing, what about on rides with storylines in the queue that you skip if you use Fastpass? This seems no worse.


Pretty much.

I say this as a shameless nerd and fanboi for all of the work WDI has done over the last 60 years, I don't get how this upcharge service could be seen as some reckless subversion of THE ONE TRUE DISNEY or whatever. As an out-of-stater and AP member, I don't find it difficult to say "this [specific thing the company offers] does not actively cater to the way that I want to plan our family's trips to WDW, but I can work around it/have it work for us." Would we ever use the Disney Dining Plan? No. Do we sit at the computer or on the phone to get that one KILLER ADR? No. Are our vacations structured around a rigid schedule that includes specifically timed FastPass+ experiences, show times, and bathroom breaks down to the minute? No! Would we ever buy this bus service? No! We like to drive everywhere. But bully for you if you do! Thanks for spending money for my personal pleasure of getting you out of the general security line!

Not everyone has the desire to fully immerse themselves in all of the neat subtleties that make up all of the parks, but that does not detract from my experience and the experiences of my friends and family. We can be really weird talking about disco Yeti or obsessively ride the Tower of Terror without lording our nerd cred over other people. I don't really care about listening to a podcast on NBA history, so it's easy to understand why a minority of people want to sit down and listen to a podcast with Tony Baxter interviews or comment on a theme park enthusiast message board. :)

There are so many things to do on Walt Disney World property. We have yet to do them all, and we go way too often for people who don't live in central Florida. Some families only go once or twice in their life! Disney has a very captive and global audience for Walt Disney World. TWDC can keep going in to foreign countries to build parks, but people still leave soil they share with a Disney park to come to Walt Disney World. If people want to spend a bunch of money to squeeze out all of the juice in a trip to WDW, great for me! Hopefully we can see that money to be put to good use with regards to future attractions in progress, rumored, or sorely needed, or critical infrastructure upgrades to security checkpoints and the monorail system.

tl;dr as a shameless nerd of the Walt Disney Company, I don't get it either

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Re: Walt Disney World Epcot Discussion Thread

Postby DirkFunk » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:21 am

Gav wrote:So with this "opening act" thing, what about on rides with storylines in the queue that you skip if you use Fastpass? This seems no worse.


I briefly considered linking you to a long form essay someone did about the nature of the Pirates of the Caribbean queue and how Fastpass subverted the time travel aspect and has perverted/ruined the experience, but I figured you probably don't want to waste valuable hours of your life reading that.

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Re: Walt Disney World Epcot Discussion Thread

Postby PeoplemoverMatt » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:00 pm

As someone who actually prefers to enter Disneyland by walking to the monorail station and riding the monorail directly into Tomorrowland, I had no idea how much of a huge mistake I was making by skipping the "opening act" entirely. :lmao:

The Express Bus service is a good idea and one that I would most certainly look into using if I was ever at WDW without a car. Time is what you're really paying for at any theme park. Any option to maximize use of that time is in a guest's best interest IMO. Some people choose to waste the time they've paid for, and that's OK. Some don't. This express bus service does not impact the ones who choose not to use it at all whatsoever. But to be clear, that's entirely their choice. These buses are a bargain compared to the average price of a rental car in Orlando. Why someone would complain about them is beyond me.
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Re: Walt Disney World Epcot Discussion Thread

Postby RideWoodenCoasters » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:59 pm

Please delete if answered elsewhere, but does anyone know if the ATLAS at Epcot was removed or substantially parted out (Iron Man on my mind, of course). Thanks.

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Re: Walt Disney World Epcot Discussion Thread

Postby robbalvey » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:59 pm

Today we attended the media event for Epcot's new "Festival of the Arts" event which runs weekends (Fri-Mon) January 13th - February 20th.

Now before you might be all "Wait, another festival at Epcot???" please remember that between Christmas and Flower & Garden, there isn't really anything going on at Epcot, *AND* Disney used to hold an event called "Festival of the Masters" at Downtown Disney which featured Florida local and Disney artists to come display and sell their items for one weekend. This festival ran for I believe 38 years until the construction of Disney Springs caused the event to be put on hiatus.

Now, this new event at Epcot is basically the "spiritual successor" to Festival of the Masters but it is also expanded in many ways. First off, the event runs several weekends, not just one. The "arts" features more than just "artwork" it showcases paintings, photography, food, and musical theater. (yay! for the last part!)

We had a really good time at the event today and I look forward to this becoming yet another Epcot festival tradition that grows and changes over the years! Here's the photos & a video from today's event! (make sure you watch the video with the sound up!)
The Peeing Log Flume

Here's a log flume where characters pee on you in China! Would you ride this???Video by Martin Lewison

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This morning we are checking out the brand new Festival of the Arts!

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We've got our media credentials, event passport, and park guide and ready to check out this new event!

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Disney artist Larry Dotson signing his amazing artwork in Norway today!

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If you remember Festival of Masters that used to be at Disney Springs this event is very similar. And we think that's GREAT!

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The folks from Pop Gallery at Disney Springs have a booth with artists signing their work every weekend!

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We LOVE Walt Disney World events that include food booths! Here's a couple you'll see around Festival of the Arts.

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WDW Merchandise guru Steve Miller talks event swag like the new Figment World Showcase scavenger hunt for kids!

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Some of the food items are almost too pretty to eat! (But we are going to because they are delicious!)

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The amount of amazing Disney artwork being offered is absolutely amazing! My wallet hates this event! LOL!

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Carlos is one of the local Florida artists invited to display and sell his amazing photography!

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If you're looking for original art, Boiled Books is another local artist featured at the event.

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Was cool getting to see Disney artist Joe Kaminski painting today! I think Elissa would want the rodents!

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We are attending one of the free art seminars. This one features animation and includes a free pin! YAY!!!

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Disney animator Lynn Rippberger talks about working on films like Mulan, Beauty & The Beast, and Little Mermaid.

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This PhotoPass photo op is hilarious & amazing! Who looks better? Me as The Scream or Craig as Mona Lisa?

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On display is some work from legendary Disney artist Herbert Ryman.

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Do we have any Figment fans? Here's his topiary as part of Festival of the Arts!

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Disney artist Don "Ducky" Williams will be at the Festival most days signing his artwork!

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Looking for Event merchandise? You can find some in the Art of Disney store!

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Yay! We got a cookie shaped like an artists palate!

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I love the Disney on Broadway series they're doing for the event! Over the next few weeks, we will hear songs from Disney shows including my favorite, Newsies!

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Here's a couple Mickey Mouse paintings by Joe Kaminski available during Festival of the Arts.

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Wow! The line to see Ashley Brown and Joshua Strickland stretches all the way back to Germany!

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The Newsies logo came up while waiting for the Disney on Broadway show & King of NY is playing and it makes me so happy!

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Taking the stage is Broadway's Ashley Brown (the original Mary Poppins) and Joshua Strickland! (The original Tarzan) and they are singing songs from Tarzan & Beauty & The Beast! Wonderful!!!

Since Frozen on Broadway is coming next year, they sung Let it Go! (You can also hear Ashley sing Part of Your World in the video I linked above!)


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Had a REALLY great day at the new Epcot Festival of the Arts! Highly recommend! Especially if you miss Festival of the Masters!
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Re: Walt Disney World Epcot Discussion Thread

Postby cfc » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:00 am

I have no issues with Epcot being the "festival center" for Walt Disney World. It's the perfect venue for it.
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Re: Walt Disney World Epcot Discussion Thread

Postby coasterbill » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:02 am

Great update! I'll admit, that as someone who hasn't had the chance to attend an Epcot festival, the food prices sound pretty reasonable considering the location. I'm also loving the Disney inspired artwork.

robbalvey wrote:Now before you might be all "Wait, another festival at Epcot???


Are people bitching about this? Please tell me this disclaimer wasn't put here because people are bitching about this now. Please.

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