Walt Disney World Epcot Discussion Thread

[haiderodes"Excuse me, miss, may I pound my large rooster into your donkey?"]

Again, you have to remember that even with the 'short' lines that Mission: Space has, it still puts through SOOOOO many people that it's more likely to have an accident than some random roundup.

I don't think it pulls anymore G's than most rides, if anything, I think it's Gary Sinise's fault. He hypes up the ride so much and scares people so that their heart is racing, then you ride the ride and it's really not that bad! Come on, even I can ride it multiple times!

In a way, I think Elissa could be right. I think the suspense of not knowing exactly how its going to feel may play a factor in it. I also think the theming and everything that makes the experience so exciting, adds to the perceived forces.

Like someone else mentioned, I have never EVER seen a ride that has that many warnings about whats going to happen. They not only mention spinning, they show it...OVER AND OVER AGAIN! Maybe people just think Disney rides are calm and ignore the warnings (already mentioned)? I mean if people are ignoring them, that can't really be Disney's fault...in theory of course.

Yes Mission:Space is unique, its has its intense aspects, but there are much more intense attractions out there.

[Wes.]

Yes Mission:Space is unique, its has its intense aspects, but there are much more intense attractions out there.

But not at Disney. M:S is probably the most intense Disney ride ever, in terms of forces. People expect Disney rides to be exciting, but maybe not as crazy as something from Six Flags. Disney has set a standard that their attractions are geared towards families. They obviously have EVERY RIGHT to build whatever kind of ride they want, but the public perception is always going to be that Disney builds tame rides. I can guarantee you there's been thousands and thousands of people who were completely caught off guard by M:S's intensity, despite the numerous warnings.

Another problem/issue is that you obviously can't see the ride before you board. Even with the safety videos and all that, people are going to think "Hey, it's just spinning, big deal!", whereas the same person would see an out in the open roller coaster like Hulk and decide they probably shouldn't ride it.

[SharkTumsSite Admin]

^I disagree on one of your points. I feel that for the General Public Rock n Roller Coaster and even EE are more intense than mission space. Let's use my mom as typical GP (which she is, trust me!) She was more willing to go on a spinning ride than a ride that Launches, goes upside down, or a ride that goes backwards.

You can't see Rock n Roller coaster, it launches and goes upsidedown several times. (And depending on where and what train you ride it, bashes your skull!)

Yes Mission Space probably sustains more G-Forces, but I dont' feel it's anymore intense than some of the other Disney rides. People have heart attacks at Disney every day, you just don't hear about them when they happen as the person is eating, or walking through world showcase!

Haven't at least 2 or 3 people died on Hulk? 2 on Kumba? You don't hear people calling for those rides to be changed.

[Wes.]

^ I think what I was trying to say and what you were trying to say is similar, my wording was probably poor. Your mom would probably choose to go (heh) on M:S over RnRC because RnRC is perceived as being more intense, since it's a roller coaster that goes upside down. People think they can handle a ride that "just spins" versus one that launched and goes through loops. The woman who died might have opted out of riding RnRC.
I bet the ride ops on M:S probably get "Is this a roller coaster?" quite a bit, and when they say no, the people who wouldn't normally ride Everest or RnRC think it's okay to go on. Roller coasters obviously carry a perceived notion, whereas since Mission: Space is hard to explain in terms of the ride and the sensations, more people get on it not knowing what its going to be like.

I still feel that the overall experience on Mission: Space is far more intense that Rock N Roller Coaster. Space made me light headed and a little dizzy, RnRC made me just hate Steven Tyler.

[SharkTumsSite Admin]

^Wait a minute, I love that idea!

[robbalveySite Admin]

I also just want to point out that there are statistically more injuries on the parking lot tram at Disney's on both coasts, yet you don't see a big deal being made over that.

--Robb

[live2tell75Team Alcide!]

I love Mission Space. I have been on it a gazillion times. But everytime I go, with all the warnings during the line I still wonder in the back of my mind, could this be the time that MS is going to cause a medical condtion to surface in me that I had no idea about. I get over it and I always love the ride. But I could see how people could get stressed out about the whole expeience. The build up in the preshows can make your heart race. Ok, I agree it's Gary Sinese's fault!

-Eric J

[haiderodes"Excuse me, miss, may I pound my large rooster into your donkey?"]

I also just want to point out that there are statistically more injuries on the parking lot tram at Disney's on both coasts, yet you don't see a big deal being made over that.

--Robb

Right on Robb!

As a past Disney parking host...let me tell you people got hurt all the time. Granted 99.9% of the time it was thier fault for not paying attention and not following directions but it happened. There was no news coverage.

IMO, I think the Mission:Space hoopla has to deal with how they marketed the ride as well. They said it was the most intense attraction ever, reguardless of the physical reality of g-forces. People will take most intense and turn it into something thats on the edge of being safe/unsafe. We were talking about this very sort of mental game in my Media and Society class yesterday.

There are a lot of attractions people get hurt on. Hell, I was at the movies last night and someone fell UP the stairs.

[Erik JohnsonFormer captain of the Arrow bus.]

I do not know what more WDW has to do to warn people about the intensity of the ride. They certainly do have the most extensive warning sign in front of this attraction I have ever seen. Also our friend Gary warns everyone about the ride at least 3 or 4 times in the pre-show. Several times, via a computer generated model, they show park guests how the ride works before you actually board. Once while you are waiting for the pre-show, and another time in the 2nd section on the pre-show.

[waterviperIdiot.]

Maybe now Mission:Space will get the Alien Encounter treatment.
Instead of Mission:Space it will be called Mission:Stitch.
There wont be any more centrifuge. It would just be like a regular simulator like Star Tours where you go on some sort of mission with Stitch being the pilot as all hell breaks loose just like Star Tours.
I can totally see that happening!